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Apostasy Quote & Movements   Leave a comment


This is from the blog Words from the Crucible:

“The apostasy of the early Church came as a result of a greater desire to see the spread of its power and rule than to see new natures given to its individual members. The moment we covet a large following and rejoice in the crowd that is attracted by our presentation of what we consider truth, and have not a greater desire to see the natures of individuals changed according to the divine plan, we start to travel a road of apostasy that leads to Rome and her daughters.”

– Author Unknown

The gospel which seeks to shake the world but not the hearts of men is no gospel at all. It loves to attract the world, therefore it will gain the world at the forfeiture of its own soul; for the world is seduced by the words of such a harlot. The true body of Christ is never a movement, for such only serves the pride and vanity of man. Men love a movement because it will do the moving for them. Movements are the monuments which mark the resting place of the dead. Man has movements, God has movings. Movements flatter, movings shatter. A movement is a thing, an external item, to be vainly admired and coveted by men; but a moving is a continually active force of nature, in this case divine, which must be at work within and through men individually.

A Dream of a Miscarriage

Scorched Earth   2 comments


Lot and his daughters fleeing Sodom and Gomorrah

Scorched Earth
By Tim Shey

Genesis 19: 28:   “And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.”

Harlot of the Tetons
The stench of your sin
Rose up to highest Heaven
You were fashionably dressed
Like ancient Sodom
Till the day the Lord
Scorched your streets with fire.

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River Crossing Church, Jackson, Wyoming   8 comments

Here are a couple of responses to two emails that I received in the past couple of days:
Dear Sawman1960:
I am looking for information on how to get in touch with Tim Shey. I have an interest in the River Crossing church in JHW [Jackson Hole, Wyoming] and have read much of what Mr. Shey wrote on his blogsite about the recent OSA [Operation Save America] demonstrations there and his dreams about Mike Atkins and would like to ask some questions as it seems Mr. Shey knows Mike Atkins. I have concerns about Mike Atkins and River Crossing.  Are you Tim Shey?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you and God bless you.
Mary [not her real name]
Yes, I am Tim Shey (Sawman).  I went to church at River Crossing (it was called Jackson Hole Christian Center at the time) three times back in 2003 and the Lord chastened me for being there.  It seemed like a worldly church.  I later had a dream from the Lord warning me about Mike Atkins and River Crossing Church.  I had some friends that quit going to that church, also.
I really don’t know Mike Atkins–I met him once.  I knew his daughter a little before she got married–she seemed very worldly.  The people that I know that dealt with Mike Atkins thinks that he is a con artist.  The Lord showed me in a dream that River Crossing is apostate.  There might be a few people in that church who may be saved, but I would guess that they are shallow Christians.
Apostate:  Mike Atkins, River Crossing Church, Jackson, Wyoming
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Hello Tim:
Thank you for your response. I attended Jackson Hole Christian Center periodically from 2000 – 2004 then full time from 2006 – 2010 and then part time during 2011. I have several friends there and until September 2011, I had a strong appreciation for Pastor Mike. However, in September of 2011, I entered the church with a friend one Sunday (Pastor Mike was away) and the young assistant pastor, Mike Evans, was speaking that day. In my spirit I had such a strong sense of sensuality in the church, I felt I needed to leave. Even though I saw a couple of people leave, I stayed that day but late that evening, and throughout the night I wrote to the young men a long letter of concern about the behavior I felt in the spirit that day. Since January 2011, several of us have had some major concerns about things we have seen and experienced in the spirit regarding River Crossing – especially the urgent and immediate dismissal of the minister of music whom so many of us loved.
I have read a great deal about you on your site, and I must admit that I agree with more than 95 percent of your comments, and I also believe Christians are to speak out for the innocent and the defenseless. However, I am a little concerned about your comments regarding Pastor Gary [Pilcher] and the Assemblies of God Church in Iowa. I believe those comments are a little strong but that is between you and him.
Primarily you seem like a man who hears from the Lord, but I would like to know more about your history; your conversion, and why you are not in full time ministry. And I would like to know more about why you are so strong against Mike Atkins – what you believe God showed you about the church.  In March of this year I had just about decided to not return to River Crossing and then after reading the news of happenings during the recent OSA anti-abortion demonstrations in May I am confident I will have to find another church in Jackson when I return there.
Can you recommend a Godly spirit filled church in Jackson and are you comfortable telling me the names of your friends who left the church? What is your present connection to Jackson Hole, and are you there often? Have you considered a ministry there or anywhere else? Do you know who the woman is who practices witchcraft and still attends RC, and if so will you give me her name?  She was mentioned in Mark Holick’s letter to Jackson Hole News and Guide, and then today, I spoke with a friend who now lives in KC MO, but who attended JHCC for four years through 2009. She confirmed to me today that she was aware then of a woman who practiced witchcraft and attended the church. I think it is horrific that Mike has not asked her to leave the church especially since I personally saw him escort three men from the building last year who he said were  involved in an occult.
Several of us, one being the person I am cc’ing, are trying to get some clear cut answers to the problems and inconsistencies we see there;  she is a friend of mine who is working with me to hear from God about River Crossing.
Thanks so much for your input…
I am in full-time ministry.  The Lord has me on the road–I have been hitchhiking the United States for most of 16 years.  My life of obedience to the Lord is the sermon.  The Lord led me out of going to church on Sunday back in 1991.  The Lord had me start my two blogs and the Lord told me to write two books.  Part of my ministry are my writings; I have excellent fellowship with the people I communicate with on my blogs.
I am very prophetic and the Lord gives me prophetic dreams.  I know I had the one dream about Mike Atkins and a friend of mine, who used to go to River Crossing, had a few dreams warning her about Mike Atkins.  Mrs. Atkins has a Jezebel spirit.
Here is a good Scripture to meditate on:  “Come out from among them and be ye separate.”  Maybe you shouldn’t be so concerned about understanding wicked people in certain churches; separate yourself from them and follow the Lord–this would be an act of faith and obedience.  It never ceases to amaze me how so many people think that going to church on Sunday is so important when most of the churches in the United States are so dead and worldly.  That’s why we have the devil in the White House (Obama).
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One of the reasons why Eve got in trouble and enticed Adam into sin was that she was curious about the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and wanted to understand the evil thereof. All she had to do was obey the Lord and stay away from that tree. And, of course, her covering, Adam, was passive and did not aggressively protect his wife from that tree–that’s why it is called Adam’s Sin, not Eve’s Sin. Eve was the weaker vessel (as are all women)–that is why she was more susceptible to the snares and lies of Satan than Adam. That is why we had the rise of Satanic feminism in the 1960s and legalized abortion in the United States in 1973.Beware of anyone who asks, “Hath God said?”Genesis 3: 1: “Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”
Apostasy–Isaac Penington
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“. . .that which you have spoken in the ear in secret rooms shall be proclaimed on the housetops.” (Luke 12: 2-3)

By Tim Shey

Brutal deathdance;
My eyes weep blood.
Pharisees smile like vipers,
They laugh and mock their venom:
Blind snakes leading
The deaf and dumb multitude.

Where are my friends?
The landscape is dry and desolate.
They have stretched my shredded body
On this humiliating tree.

The hands that healed
And the feet that brought good news
They have pierced
With their fierce hatred.

The man-made whip
That opened up my back
Preaches from a proper pulpit.
They sit in comfort:
That vacant-eyed congregation.
The respected, demon-possessed reverend
Forks his tongue
Scratching itchy ears
While Cain bludgeons
Abel into silence.

My flesh in tattered pieces
Clots red and cold and sticks
To the rough-hewn timber
That props up my limp, vertical carcase
Between heaven and earth.
My life drips and puddles
Below my feet,
As I gaze down dizzily
On merciless eyes and dagger teeth.

The chapter-and-versed wolves
Jeer and taunt me.
Their sheepwool clothing
Is stained black with the furious violence
Of their heart of stone.
They worship me in lip service,
But I confess,
I never knew them
(Though they are my creation).

My tongue tastes like ashes:
It sticks to the roof of my mouth.
I am so thirsty.
This famine is too much for me.
The bulls of Bashan have bled me white.
Papa, into your hands
I commend my Spirit.

February/March 1997
Iowa State University

Genesis 49: 10: “The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.”

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“The fact is that, we are not producing saints. We are making converts to an effete type of Christianity, that bears little resemblance to that of the New Testament. The average so-called Bible Christian of our times is but a shallow display of true sainthood. Yet, we put millions of dollars behind ‘movements’ to perpetuate this lower form of religion and attack the man who dares to challenge the wisdom of it.”

–A.W. Tozer

Effete: “having lost character, courage, strength, stamina, or vitality.”
Webster’s Third New International Dictionary

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